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one who said that there was no 'Mother Chandra', there was only 'Teacher Chandra'. He thought it was probably someone else. Nevertheless, the day was not wasted, because an aging monk spotted him and suggested he went and studied Dhamma with a monk called 'Acharn Veera' who was able to teach meditation as it had been taught by the late Great Abbot of Wat Paknam. That monk, Prabhavanakosolthera (Veera Gaṇuttamo) allowed the student to sit by the loudspeaker from which one could hear what was going on inside the meditation workshop. The instructions were impossible for him to understand. They were talking about subtle things like alleviating human suffering, drought and famine. About having the rain fall according to season or healing people's diseases. Deep down inside, he liked listening to that sort of conversation, even though he didn't really understand it. It made him feel cool inside. He heard them talking about the Māras for hours at a time – and that was the thing really to impress him. Next day, the student came back to the temple again and sat listening at the loudspeaker. He did this each day for a fortnight, but he still hadn't forgotten his wish to meet with Khun Yay. He asked a young man of approximately the same age sitting by him, whether he knew 'Mother Chandra'. The man said there was no 'Mother Chandra' only a 'Teacher Chandra'. "Can you take me to see Teacher Chandra then?" he asked, on the off-chance that it be the same person. This time he was introduced to Khun Yay, on the steps of the mausoleum for the tomb of the Great Abbot.